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Chem/Physics Professors Collaborate, Maximizing Research and Enjoyment

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Paul Farnsworth and Ross Spencer, professors from different departments, are now in their seventh year on a Department of Energy grant. Their project studies the flow of plasma ions through a mass spectrometer.
Photo by Mark A. Philbrick
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Paul Farnsworth

Though scientific research is a serious thing, full of deadlines, proposals, and intricate experiments, it can be fun as well. This has been true of Paul Farnsworth and Ross Spencer’s collaboration on the flow of plasma ions into a mass spectrometer, through which the two professors have developed a great friendship.

Farnsworth, a faculty member in the Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry, and Spencer, of Physics and Astronomy, are now in their seventh year on a Department of Energy grant. The project studies the flow of plasma ions through a mass spectrometer. This instrument is so sensitive that if a grain of salt was thrown into an Olympic-sized swimming pool, the mass spectrometer could detect the concentration—the equivalent of a few parts per quadrillion.

With such a sensitive instrument, the ions must be consistently and efficiently transported from the high atmospheric pressure they are created at to the vacuum of the mass spectrometer. Because of the large difference in pressures, this process is very difficult and expensive to characterize experimentally. In order to meet this challenge, Farnsworth invited Spencer to collaborate by providing computer models and simulations of the data. Both agree that their work and published papers have been greatly improved by this process.

“Our combined efforts are a lot stronger than either one of them would have been individually,” said Farnsworth. “The idea was that we could develop a model—someone could calculate things that we couldn’t do experimentally.” Laughing, he added, “But it turns out that the calculations are just about as hard as the experiments.”

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Ross Spencer

Despite the challenges of turning the experimental data into models, Spencer was well-prepared by his background in plasma physics. Still, he jokes that understanding Farnsworth’s jargon was another task.

“It was pretty hard early on,” he said. “I had to learn this whole new area, so it was like being a graduate student again.”

Behind their light-hearted banter are two very capable scientists, each respected in their individual fields. In this age of increased specialization, such interdisciplinary work is uncommon.

“The disciplines are really narrow,” said Spencer. “Most research projects are like drilling an oil well. You pick one little spot and drill way down deep. Departments are kind of rigid typically. [Interdisciplinary work] is unusual. I bet there aren’t too many of these.”

Farnsworth attributed a part of their collaboration to BYU and their shared religious beliefs. The two actually met through the Church, when they were graduate students at the University of Wisconsin. Their friendship and easy-going personalities have continued to facilitate their research, especially while both professors served as chairs of their respective departments.

In an interview, each noted the strengths brought by the other to the project.

“[Spencer] has the mathematical insights that I lack, and the ability to convert them into a model that gives useful information. These are things I could never do,” said Farnsworth of his associate’s talents.

Spencer likewise spoke highly of his partner’s knowledge and attitude.

“He thinks laser; he thinks atomic physics,” said Spencer. “I don’t follow most of that. It’s not an area I’ve worked in, but he’s very exacting in his demands of his students. I’ve watched him push his students to be better.”